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5 Day Pouch Test Fad or Fab??

Have you heard about the 5 Day Pouch Test? If not I am going to tell you all about it and give you my personal opinion after I tried it out and let you know what I think.

Let me start off this lengthy post by telling you that all of the opinions and results from me trying this are mine. Your results may be different if you chose to try it yourself. Yes I had to say that because I am not endorsing this by any means, but I had read about it and I was at the point (11 months post op) where I hit a wall and it sounded like something that may help break it down. With that said let me start by telling you what it is.

The 5 Day Pouch Test was developed by a woman named Kaye Bailey. Here is how she describes it in her own words: This is the 5-day plan that I have developed and used to determine if my pouch is working and return to that tight newbie feeling. And a bonus to this plan, it helps one get back to the basics of the weight loss surgery diet and it triggers weight loss. Also, it is not difficult to follow and if you are in a stage of carb-cycling it will break this pattern.

Pretty easy to understand right? Well if you follow my blog you know that I have been struggling the past 5 weeks or so with not losing much weight at all (total of 2 lbs) and also fighting old habits creeping back, as well as craving those carbs again. I had heard about this 5 Day Pouch Test in my web travels and it sounded like the perfect thing I needed right now.

I have talked about it in some of the Gastric Bypass Forums out there asking for opinions before I tried it out and they are very mixed.  Some say it is just a Fad thing and others say they have tried it with much success. A couple people even said I would be doing a dis service to my readers if I did try it and write about it. I think quite the opposite about that one – First off by doing this for 5 days will not hurt me at all and secondly I am not telling anyone to do it, but sharing my thoughts and opinions of what I felt about it after I did it.  I honestly think it is a good thing that I share that with all of you, don’t you?

I did however understand some of their concerns. One person said that this is something that psychologically takes you back to all the crazy stuff you did before you took the step of altering your digestive system.  Another said; While the 5DPT is not physically harmful it perpetuates many of the negative thinking patterns that landed us on an operating table in the first place. And another said: It is one thing for you to want to do something for yourself because you think it will help (and you are willing to disregard the psychological aspect of it), but I think you should reconsider just posting your “opinion” on it on your blog once you are done, because you will only know the physical side of it… you will not, in five short days, be able to see how it has reinforced your “diet” mentality and how that affects you down the line, and THAT is the biggest danger of the 5DPT.  I would at least encourage you to warn the people reading your blog that the 5DPT reinforces the old dieting mentality and works AGAINST the idea of a new healthy, eating lifestyle that is so important if you want to be maintaining your weight loss years down the road.  As someone else already pointed out, many people who do it end up doing it over and over again to compensate for what they are un able to do on a daily basis to maintain their weight. This is not just my personal opinion.  It is also my professional one (even though I am not here in a professional capacity). As a counselor, I see a LOT of people who struggle with weight (both those who have had WLS and those who have not).  The problem is usually not that they cannot lose the weight through dieting.  The problem is that they cannot maintain the weight loss because they cannot move out of the dieting mentality into a healthy eating mentality. The 5DPT is dieting mentality.

I do feel they all have valid points whether they are right or wrong I had to come to my own conclusion.  I do agree with the dieting mentality and feel as though that will never go away with any one of us struggling with weight loss, I feel it will always be there regardless of how much we pay a doctor to fix us. For me I was able to recognize me failing into old habits and have come too far to allow that to make me go backwards so why not try something that may help me stay on the right path. So I chose to go ahead with it and that is what I did. This is MY Gastric Bypass Story, just sayin’

With that being said the 5 Day Pouch Test goes like this:

  • Day 1 & 2 Full Liquids – low-carb protein shakes, broth, clear or cream soups, sugar-free gelatin and pudding
  • Day 3 Soft Proteins – canned fish (tuna or salmon) eggs, fresh soft fish (tilapia, sole, orange roughy.
  • Day 4 Firm Protein – ground meat (turkey, beef, chicken, lamb), shellfish, scallops, lobster, fresh salmon or halibut.
  • Day 5  Solid Protein – white meat poultry, beef steak, pork, lamb, wild game

***Add in 64 ounces of Liquid (Water) per day as well)***

For the entire description, recipes and tips visit the official website here: 5 Day Pouch Test

So that seems easy enough right? Just seems to be taking us back to the beginning, nothing harmful at all.

Now I will share with you my Food Journal for my 5 Days:

12-05-2012 Day 1:

6:30 am – Morning Cup of  Coffee

10:30 am – 8 ounce Chocolate Protein Shake – 26 grams protein

3:00 pmProtein Coffee Combo Drink – 40.5 grams protein

8:00 pm – Cream of Shrimp Soup (Drained of the little shrimps) -approx. 13 grams protein

Crystal Light Lemonade drank throughout the day

Holy Crap was it hard to go back to full liquids I am not gonna lie. Today I worked on the computer and then in the afternoon finished making some Snowman Kit Crafts for the kids (part of an xmas gift).  Later in the evening I went to Walmart with hubby and my son after we dropped my daughter off to her dance classes. Thank God I stayed busy because again going back to all liquids was killer. I was in bed by 9:30 pm and watched TV until I fell asleep so not to be near or think about food.

I did not get in 64 ounces of Water (Crystal Light) – I did the best I could. I am not a big drinker especially in the winter when it is cold. It took me almost 3 hours to finish my Protein Coffee alone. Crazy right? So was I hungry? Uh yes, but more mentally than psychically really. Oh and I forgot to get on my treadmill for my 30 minutes, but I am thinking all the trips to pee may have made up for that no?

I made it through keeping all my readers in mind because I want to be able to give you all an honest point of view of this. So thank you all for being in my head!!!

12-06-2012 Day 2:

6:30 am – Morning Cup of  Coffee

11:30 am – 8 ounce Chocolate Protein Shake – 26 grams protein

3:30 pmProtein Coffee Combo Drink – 40.5 grams protein

9:30 om – SF Black Cherry Jell-O

Crystal Light Lemonade drank throughout the day

I am happy to say I struggled a bit less today than I did yesterday with the liquids. Certain times like the afternoon are harder for me, but I made it through. I did not get in 64 ounces of Water (Crystal Light) in again, but honestly I do not think I have ever been able to do that since my surgery. Maybe a few times over the summer when it is really hot out.

Today I worked on the computer as I always do and then my afternoon was spent sitting in front of the fire wrapping xmas gifts.

Seems like I hardly had anything today, but I have to tell you that my afternoon protein coffee takes me at least 3 hours to finish. Then I got busy doing things in the evening (I exercised!!! Yup I got on the treadmill and walked for an hour) and by the time I was hungry again it was late so I grabbed a Jell-O and went to bed soon after.

P.S. – I cannot wait to eat tomorrow- looking forward to my soft proteins!!!

12-07-2012 Day 3:

Day 3- 5 Rules:

The next three days you get to eat as much as you want as often as you want! Ahhh, but there’s a catch: it has to be solid protein and you only get 15 minutes each time you sit down to eat. No drinking 30 minutes before or after meals and no drinking with your food. A dry pouch will hold your protein longer helping your to feel full and fed longer. Measure your portion (1 cup volume or 4-6 ounces weight) and eat only until you feel full, not overfull.

OK I can do that!!! Here we go….

6:30 am – Morning Cup of  Coffee

11:30 am – 3 Hard boiled Eggs with 1 Tbsp Mayo – 18 grams protein

4:00 pmProtein Coffee Combo Drink – 40.5 grams protein

8:15 pm – 5 ounces Broiled Flounder (2 Tbsp Tarter Sauce – I am a dipper)

Crystal Light Iced Tea drank throughout the day

Today I was so excited to eat again and so I made some Egg Salad using 3 Eggs for lunch. I ate it within my 15 minutes and then I was full. I did notice however me wanting to grab something else to eat even though I was physically full from that. Instead I got up and did some house cleaning – I had all this extra energy today and cleaned all the weird things like light fixtures and my fridge. Hey when a burst of energy comes I will take it!

In the afternoon I was not super hungry but always need my coffee so I made my Protein Coffee Combo and as I said above it takes me 2-3 hours to finish it. I also got on my treadmill again for 40 minutes today – I cannot believe I exercised 2 days in  a row – patting myself on the back.

For dinner I broiled up some Flounder and had to use some Tarter Sauce to dip – I cannot really eat fish without it. I ate 5 ounces and I am stuffed. I do not know if it is the this 5 Day Pouch Test working or not, but I have not been hungry nor craving snacks as I was before. Is it just me? I don’t know but I am very happy with the results so far.

12-08-2012 Day 4:

10:30 am – Morning Cup of  Coffee (Slept late today)

1:00 pm – Pan Fried Homemade Burger (not sure how much protein – did not measure it)

2:00 pm – Small Peppermint Mocha Coffee (not on plan, but I was at the mall and desperately needed a coffee)

5:00 pm – Couple bites of Chicken (Samples)

7:30 pmProtein Coffee Combo Drink – 40.5 grams protein

10:00 pm – Pan Fried Homemade Burger (not sure how much protein – did not measure it)

Crystal Light Iced Tea drank throughout the day

Today I slept late – love Saturday’s!!!  For lunch I took some ground beef and added some seasonings – made it into patties and fried it in a pan. I ate one of those and was full and satisfied. Then I took my daughter to the mall – you can read about that adventure here: Oh Deer, I ventured to the Mall. The mall was hard for me even though I was busy walking and shopping. My daughter had gotten a pretzel from Auntie Am’s and I took a small bite. I also caved and got a small Peppermint Mocha Coffee – see I hate the mall and that was desperately needed to keep me going. Later at the food court she got dinner and there were no real options for me there. I did however have 2 samples of Chicken they were handing out at the Chinese place.

When I got home I made myself a Protein Coffee – I am addicted to these now since I started making them and later at night I ate another Burger Pattie.

So today was kinda a semi fail for following the plan, but not too bad that I think it will throw me off. We will see what happens.

 12-08-2012 Day 5:

9:00 am – Morning Cup of  Coffee

2:30 pm – About 1 Cup of Roasted Chicken

3:45 pmProtein Coffee Combo Drink – 40.5 grams protein

9:00 pm – About 1 Cup of Roasted Chicken

Crystal Light Iced Tea drank throughout the day

Today I cleaned – got all of this energy and a new can of Pledge (lol). Again working on all those things I put off like all the wood, washing curtains etc… For lunch hubby picked me up a Roasted Chicken from the store and I had that. Then of course my Protein Coffee which I have said takes me a while to drink. Then for dinner I had more of the roasted chicken.

So this is it the 5 Day Pouch Test is complete. Now on to my results…

Drum Roll Please…..

I did My Weigh In and I lost 5 Pounds!!!

I have not lost that much in one week in a very very long time. Doing a happy dance.

Now here are my personal thoughts about the 5 Day Pouch Test.

Do I think the 5 Day Pouch Test worked? Well it definitely got me to beat my weight loss stall that is for sure.

Did it break my cravings for carbs or sweets? Yes and No – I still craved carbs and sweets over the 5 days. Did I have any? No because I was following the plan. Honestly I think cravings are psychological and not psychical anyways. I do not think they will ever go away.

Is my Pouch fixed, does it feel all tight again? Well I am not sure it was ever broken to be honest. I think I was falling into bad habits and eating the wrong things, drinking too soon and choosing too many slider foods. I did get full from what I ate throughout the 5 days and was completely satisfied. I never had that super tight feeling from the start anyways.

Here it is in a nut shell – What this really did for me was to get me back on track in the right direction, I seemed to be veering off my path. It took me back to the basics and reminded me of what I should be doing and not doing. I broke my weight loss stall and have now been able to step back and see my goals are very possible if I continue to do the right things.  For all of those who say this 5 Day Pouch Test puts you back into a dieting mentality, I say Hog Wash. I think even after Gastric Bypass we will always have that mentality because we are always watching what we eat. to make the right choices.

Could I have just increased my proteins and stopped all the bad stuff I was doing – absolutely!! But by having this to follow has helped me tremendously. Everyone will have their own opinions and I am all for that and love to hear them, but now being I have tried this for myself (which I doubt any of them have) I can say it worked for me. Would I do it again? YES I would.

Let me also state this – there is no harm in doing this. There is nothing on the 5 Day Pouch Test we should not be having. In addition to that being back on the high protein without all the other crap I was consuming gave me so much energy again and my house is sparkling.

It is your own personal choice whether or not you want to give it a try if you are at a point where you are stuck. If it makes you feel better talk to your surgeon or nutritionist and see what they think about it.

I would love to hear your thoughts and hope I was able to give you good insight with my experience.

I think the 5 Day Pouch Test is FAB, again that is my opinion.

 

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35 Responses to 5 Day Pouch Test Fad or Fab??

  1. Lisa Anderson says:

    Thank You, Thank You , Thank You for all that you are doing and for some really great insight. Of all the things that I have read I would say that your opinions have been the most true, honest and totally relatable to me.
    Once again THANKS

  2. Donna says:

    That is awesome!! 5 lbs OMG that would take me to my next goal. I really should try the pouch test. I fell into the same trap as you…losing my focus. And good for you for posting this. After all, it IS your blog and everything you’re posting is your experience and your opinion. And people judge us for making the decision to even HAVE the surgery in the first place. Just as the surgery is not for everyone, the pouch test may not be either. But thank you for posting your experience with this for sure!

    • admin says:

      Thank You for that. This is what makes it so worth it for me – I am just like everyone else. A lot of bloggers pretend they are someone else, I do not. If you give it a try let me know how it goes for you. The first 2 days on liquid were killer, but doable.

  3. Lisa says:

    So proud of you! I have really enjoyed reading you results!! It is so easy for us to fall of the wagon and go down the wrong path with carbs and sugars. I may try this test in my future as well. Thanks for all you do here!

    –Lisa (Ellen)

    • admin says:

      awww Thanks so much for taking the time to write – it means a lot to me. It really helped me out and I hope I can stay on path and make all the goals I have set for myself. Let me know when and if you give it a try.

  4. Jessica D. says:

    I personally feel that the pouch test is a fad. I’ve never tired it, but I don’t understand how one can “break” their pouch. I think it’s all psychological. If doing the test for people makes them follow a plan and lose weight that’s great. Glad you lost weight!

    • admin says:

      Honestly you are probably right. For me in the end it was a way to get me back on track at that moment. Thanks for sharing your thoughts xoxo

  5. Cherina says:

    I loved hearing ur experiences. In April I will be 11 months out, I’ve done good so far haven’t gained weight back or anything but it’s slowed and stalled, so after Easter I think ill jump on this amd give it a chance.my husband returns home from deployment soon and I want to get those few extra lbs gone i loved how honest u were, how far out r u? I’m only asking cause about 1/2 a cup-3/4 seems to fill me up, am I getting to little?

    • admin says:

      So great to here – yes stalling totally stinks and if I am still stalled come Monday I may also have to to the 5 day again as well. Let me know if u do it and how it goes for you.

  6. Colleen says:

    Thank you so much for your informative blog, especially your insignt and honesty on the 5DPT. I had my surgery 27.11.2012, and although I have lost 68lbs, I have been stalled for 2 weeks now, and I have also recognised some old “mindless eating” and habits returning, which I want to nip in the bud. Being stalled is frustrating, so I decided to try the 5DPT.

    • admin says:

      Well thanks for stopping by. Stalls happen all the time, but from experience they are no fun either. Let me know how the 5DPT goes for you if you try it – good luck!!!

  7. Julie says:

    I’m new to your blog, but I have really enjoied this post. a girlfriend and i both have had the WLS and have both fallen into the trap of going back to bad habits so we have decided to keep eachother accountable in starting with the 5DPT… today is the first day on the liquids and it is rough… sitting at a computer all day in a call centre tends to lead to eating out of boredom lately… I haven’t worked out in a long while but there were a lot of family issues going on with my father that took presidence over that and then the eating when to the wayside pretty easily after that… I am so thrilled to hear that it’s started you back on the right track and got you re-motivated to your journey (and the 5lb weight loss bonus, guess i should have weighed myself to know the difference… first thing when i get home :)
    thank you so much for this and i look forward to reading thru your blog

  8. Amanda Wilson says:

    Hello, thank you for sharing your story…I started the 5DPT today, I am 5 years post surgery, I have already hit my target weight of 140lbs about 2 years ago…but I have gained a staggering 36lbs back so I need to lose it. I hope I have the success that you have had with it! Thanks again Amanda

    • admin says:

      YW – It is a struggle every day no matter how far out you are. Glad to hear u are trying the 5DPT – let me know if it works for you and good luck getting back to your goal!!

  9. Pamela says:

    Thanks so much! I am only 17 days from 10 anniversary, and was trying to decide if I should do this. I have had my ups and downs, and 3 kids to boot. I have looked all over, and never found any really good information. This is what I needed, a real person, who like me, just wanted to get back on track. Thanks so very much for the information, and the realistic look at our special situation. It is not a fix, for anything, but can get us headed back in the right direction. Thanks again :)

  10. Lin says:

    I am nearly 12mths out, had the sleeve. I have been bouncing around (up and down) a few kgs for around 5mths. Scale doesn’t show much but the body shape is changing. But I am a shorty and do need to lose another 10kg. I also have found that carb snacks have snuck in so just started the 5dpt. Not to check the size of my ‘pouch’ (I know it’s small because when I do eat right I can’t get much in) but more as a detox and get focus back on protein and not drinking to close to eating.
    Thanks for your thoughts.

  11. Eni says:

    I loved your post in the 5DPT. I got so inspired that me and a coworker started it together. I am on day 3 and super excited that I have already lost 3 lbs. I can’t wait to see where 2 more days takes me. I am almost 5 years out and have been able to maintain my weightloss until last christmas. I have gained 10lbs back and freaked. This test is giving me hope that I can find my way back. Thank you!!!!

  12. mel says:

    I am four years out and almost gained 25 pounds back of the 100 I lost. My doctor was ok with me at 20 pounds gained, but told me I really didn’t want to gain anymore. I really was unhappy after the first 10 gained back. Anyway, I bought the 5DPT book about 2 years ago, but just decided I was ready for it this week.

    I am on day 2, and although a little low-carb headachy, I am feeling pretty good. I had an all day workshop today, away from my normal routine and was a little stressed about it, but I worked in my protein drinks and protein soups when I could. Instead of making the high protein pudding recipe in the book, I used the 2X Protein Greek Yogurt (low sugar) and I think that is a good substitute that wasn’t around when the book was written. I can’t wait to try the recipe in the book for the mock burritos tomorrow, and have some salmon patties for dinner!

    I really appreciate your review on this program and I think it’s good that you researched it and listened to what others had to say, but that you made up your own mind and provided such an honest review. Thanks!

    • admin says:

      Good for you to try it out finally after all that time having the book. Please let me know how it works for you when you are all done. I hope you get the results you are looking for.

  13. Ang says:

    Thank you so much for doing this test and posting your honest results! Saw the 5 day pouch test on some other website but the link was removed. I, too, am seeing some old habits. I believe this will help me, as you, get back to basics and give me a jump start as I, too, have hit a plateau. Thank you AGAIN!!

  14. Sarah says:

    Thank you for sharing your experience. I am starting this today. I had my surgery back in July 2007 and it’s been a very long time since I’ve been eating the way I should be. I have been gaining weight and I am unhappy with the way I have been eating. Lots of sweets and carbs… I don’t like eating meat because the way it feels in my belly… but I guess I need to get use to that.

  15. Cm says:

    Thank you ! I am 7 yrs out n gained 36. Felt terrible but feel there may be hope now.

  16. steve lynskey says:

    had my surgery 09/july/2013 was 20 stone now down to 13.5 stone but have stalled the last 4 weeks…..but im too early to do this right?? i have never had a “full” feeling but have not really been that hungry either…..so dont wanna regain any of of my lost weight starting weight 280lbs current weight 189lbs

  17. Topsy says:

    I am 4year and 4months post op. I have lost the feeling of a full pouch and have gained weight as a result. I plan to give the 5 days pouch test a try. I plan to start tomorrow and would provide feedback on how each day goes and the final outcome.

  18. Sherri says:

    I am so thankful for you posting this! I had LBS IN 2011 and lost a total of 54pds. Great right?!?! Gained 13 Pds to date back :( However, I stalled and began eating the “slider” foods and drinking before with and after meals. Today as of this morning and prior to reading Kaye five day test and your post, I now have positive feelings I didn’t break my band! Just need to follow the plan!!! Thank you thank you thank you!!!!!

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